Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert visited Washington yesterday and met with US President George W. Bush to finalise plans for a joint US-Israel strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.
President Bush hinted that actions against Iran will form the core of their discussion.
"I'm sure that we will find some time, also, to discuss other measures, such as the danger of Iran and the threats that come from the President of Iran, who talks time and again about the liquidation of the state of Israel, something that is totally intolerable and unacceptable," he said. "And we have to continue the measures taken in order to stop the Iranian efforts to establish unconventional weapons."
Talking to reporters at a joint press conference Bush once again re-iterated his position on military strikes against Iran by saying "I will tell you this, that my position hasn't changed, and that is all options are on the table."
"And I fully understand the concerns of any Israeli when they hear the voice of the man in Iran saying, on the one hand, we want to acquire the technologies and know-how to build a -- enrich uranium, which could then be converted into a nuclear weapon, and on the other hand, we want to destroy Israel," he added. "Look, if I were an Israeli citizen I would view that as a serious threat to my security. And as a strong ally of Israel, I view that as a serious threat to its security -- not only the security of Israel, but the security of the Middle East."
Olmert also met with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to obtain their broad support for military action against Iran.
Pelosi's comments welcoming the Prime Minister indicate that he is likely to get the backing he is seeking from the Congress.
“With the Republican and Democratic leaders gathered here, you see how strong the bipartisanship is for a great U.S.-Israel relationship," Pelosi said.
Meanwhile, Iran has formally complained to the United Nations about the planned strike by US and Israel.
"I wish to inform you that, emboldened by the absence of any action by the Security Council, various Israeli officials have unabatedly continued to publicly and contemptuously make unlawful and dangerous threats of resorting to force against the Islamic Republic of Iran," Iran's UN ambassador Javad Zarif wrote in a letter to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, dated June 11.
Iran has also accused the US of carrying out covert operations aimed at destabilising the country.

What about the Israel-US military exercises?
I am surprised your reporter failed to mention the join military exercises they carried out last week.
Israeli and American air forces yesterday started a joint exercise at Al Naqab Desert, south of Israel, in preparation for what many Israeli press reports said a potential military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.
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our tearless leader
our tearless leader is at it again, with Israel's tearless leader. The American people overwhelmingly voted in a democratic controlled congress to stop this man, and here is what HAS, and HAS NOT happened so far.
1-the war in Iraq rages on, they gave the crazy man the money to fund the war with no deadline.
2-No Impeachment proceedings, although some have talked about it, so far they have only passed wind.
3-they're bringing back habeas corpus. although they have not brought back the rest of our constitutional protections stolen by THIS president and congress/senate.
this president will go down in history with his name added to a long list of tyrants responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people.
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Benito Mussolini, chairman Mao, George Bush,.......
The Democrats have failed us, the republicans have failed us, WE NEED A THIRD PARTY THAT REPRESENTS AMERICAN VALUES! WAR is NOT an American value.
Re: our tearless leader
The Libertarian Party would be a great third party option... except that third parties have ZERO chance of winning national scale elections. The leaves Ron Paul as the best choice, IMO. He has consistently spoken out against our insane foreign policy and consistently stood up for the Constitution on a broad range of other issues, unlike everyone else in Washington.
War is an American value.
War is an American value. Why don't you tell me where you live so I can come kick your ass. If you don't like the US or it's President, you are free to leave...
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So if immoral and illegal acts which causes great suffering and misery to so many people is done by a leader put in place by representatives of people and then the people object that is the American way, or at least the verbage has been given that such is the case. Leaving America would be cowardice, so you want all objectors to be cowards as well, well ass kicker you can't have it both ways!
"War is an American value."
Go buy yourself a six-pack and chill, buddy.
How about you tell me where
How about you tell me where you live so I can kick your communist ass back to France? You have to have a shoetongue masquerading for a brain. Bet you go to church too don't you?
If I don't like America I change it. Fuck you, You leave. PRICK
Why would you kick his
Why would you kick his communist ass back to France? The onyl time France could have been considered even close to communist was during German occupation. Did you mean Russia, or you the one with a shoetongue in his skull?
War is an American Value?
Wait, what? How anti-American are you? You say that if we don't like the US or its President, that we are free to leave? So, in your America, critical thinking is outlawed? Criticizing the government is wrong? If we (the thinking people) did leave, then the country would be left to idiots like you, which would be a crime. So, we're not going.
US out of Hawaii, now.
"GREAT US-ISRAEL RELATIONSHIP"
In what way is the "great relationship with Israel" great for the US?.
All Israel does is spy on us, parasite billions in cash and weapons. They have actually increased our fuel prices due to our relationship w/them (resentful Arab suppliers).
WE GET NOTHING BUT GRIEF FROM THAT COUNTRY!
It's time to get the Israeli's out of our congress, off of our backs and out of our pockets!.
You are an ignorant idiot.
You are an ignorant idiot.
Name Calling Shills
Interesting that you have to resort to name calling to answer the question, "What good is Israel to the US?" Also, interestingf to note that you don't have the courage of conviction to post your real name.
How do American benefit from a close relationship with Israel? I am certainly not ignorant on the subject of Isreal's foreign policy. I just can't seem to find where it is in the best interest of US citizens to support a theocratic, racist government that continually lies (and blames Arabs) to start wars. I don't support torture, nor do I support building a 25 foot high wall around Palestine.
Remember how well Israel treated the US when they bombed the US Livberty? Remeber how compassionate the Israelis were when the folks at Odigo received instant message explaining the attacks two hours before the planes slammed into the towers? Never mind the illogical idea that Arab terrorists would give Israel heads up on their plans. Still, what did the Israelis do with this information? How many people died because the parasitic Israeli government wanted to fulfill their armegeddon fantasies?
Answer the question. If you can't answer a direct question with facts, then shut up!
how do we benefit from any
how do we benefit from any other democratic country ? Israel is the only bastion of freedom in that part of the world. They are attacked time and agian, showing much restraint. They do not continually threaten or have in their founding charter any mention of the destruction of any of their neighbors.
Are you so blinded by anti-semitisim that you cant be objective?
You have proven you are a shill
You might as well be writing for an Israeli PR department. Maybe you are. I don't exactly who know who you are or who you represent, but I know that you are too cowardly to leave your name.
One of the propaganda tools a paid shill uses is to instantly charge anti-Semitism, or label the writer as a "holocaust denier" anytime Israel is mentioned in less than glowing terms. You offer no facts to support your claim and then throw out the term “anti-Semite.” I think I have you pegged correctly.
Please tell me how criticizing the GOVERNMENT of Israel makes one anti-Semitic. Would criticizing Robert Mugabe's government make me anti-Black? No. Did criticizing Botha’s government make me anti-White? No. Please tell me how criticizing a government makes one racist, as you imply with your incorrect interpretation of the term “anti-Semite.” By the way, isn’t the claim of “god’s chosen people” racist in itself?
Semites consist of Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs. Note that Semites are comprised of multiple groups, not just Hebrews. The term “Semite” first appeared in the 18th century for the purpose of distinguishing various languages and grouping them into “families.” Philogists claimed that Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc., were all Semite languages, although no one has discovered the parent language of Semites from which the other languages were derived. Please note that “Semite” applies to language, not race.
“Anti-Semite” is a linguistically useless term.
As for Israel being a bastion of freedom, the facts belie this.
In 1948, Zionists (backed by the US and Britain) embarked on a brutal campaign of ethnic cleansing, forcing 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and villages so that a group of Ashkenazi Jews, who have no historical relationship with Palestine, could move in.
It wasn’t enough for Israel to exist. After each of the three wars, she conveniently expanded her borders. It wasn’t enough to expand outward. Israel started recruited Jews from all over the world to come down to paradise in the new housing developments in Gaza. After a while, they decided Jerusalem should be theirs, too.
How can the same folks who idolized Ronald Reagan when he said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” possibly stand for a 25 foot wall located well within side of the borders of Palestine? (The Berlin Wall was not nearly the size of the Apartheid Wall, which can be seen from space.) How can people sit back and watch the thugs in the IDF bulldoze houses and citrus and olive groves? How can they live with themselves for supporting a country that shoots small children and labels them terrorists for throwing a pebble at an armored tank?
And what of the attacks against Israel? Why is it that every single attack is perfectly timed to deflect criticism of Israel? Why do these attacks always occur in neighborhoods that are sympathetic to the Palestinians or full of immigrants from Russia or South America? They never occur in a Zionist neighborhood. There is never any proof that a suicide bomber is behind the attacks. How do we know a bus wasn’t rigged with explosives, or something was hidden behind a chair at a restaurant? Why should we believe the Israeli government when they have a history of lying? That Israel has a history of false flag operations is easily verifiable and undisputable. All warfare is based on deception. It is easy to predict the next suicide bomb. It will happen exactly when someone in the Israeli government needs a diversion or some sympathy.
The United States had no enemies in the Middle East prior to the creation of Israel.
As for Israel being an ally of the US, remember Jonathan Pollard? He not only spied for Israel, but Israel traded these stolen nuclear secrets for increased emigration quotas for Russian Jews. The newly arrived Russian Jews were quickly given homes in the West Bank and Gaza.
Israel has nuclear weapons and has openly bragged that some are aimed at European cities. Since the US is a member of NATO, this should be viewed as a threat to the United States. Oddly enough, Israel wants to be a member of NATO. Talk about passive-aggressive relationships!
Israel is not a free state. It is the definition of a theocracy, with Zionism at the helm. It’s system of laws is based on the Torah. There is mandatory conscription, which defies the concept of freedom. Palestinians have no rights, and Israel continues to defy UN resolutions calling for the return of indigenous Palestinians to their rightful homes seized from them in 1948 and 1967. Meanwhile, Jews from outside of Israel are permitted to immigrate and obtain Israeli citizenship solely because they are Jewish.
Until just recently, torture was legal. It still exists. The IDF trained US soldiers in interrogation techniques at Abu Ghraib. Oh, and let’s not forget the 25 foot wall around the Palestinian territories! Those Palestinians just don’t know how good they’ve got it!
Please tell me how Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is making the world a better place. How is the condoning of this behavior by the US beneficial to US foreign policy? I see it as a detriment for fear of being judged by the company we keep.
Bravo!
You have definitely done your research.
And I agree with you wholeheartedly, if I say that I do not agree with the president, does that make me anti-American? I think not. After all this is a democracy, and we still do have some semblance of freedom of speech.
I am an American, and I do not agree with the president! There I said it.
I was at one time an avid supporter of Israel, however I have in recent years been paying attention and did a little research on my own.
"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"
re: Awesome! re: Israel - Palestine
Your post on Israel/Palestine was awesome! Great job!
Israel Theocracy?
Your comments are pretty revealing and generally right. You are wrong though to call Israel a theocracy. If it only were-like Iran for instance-the Israel and the world would be better off. It's government is more of a Socialist type-godless at it's core, subsidized largely by America. If somehow it could follow religious precepts, the Torah, it would act with the kind of moral authority the Jews were seemingly asked to exhibit. But they,like most of our societies throughout history, have found it next to impossible to keep the idea of God first and foremost in their thoughts and actions. Formerly "Christian" nations are in the same boat. Iran is basically the last holdout when it comes to a society trying to follow theocratic principles. Unfortunately the monotheistic religions were targeted by the NWO and their ancestors for destruction so that in their ashes a secular, essentially God-less, State might emerge. World government seems to be on the horizon. Not a pretty sight.
Truth
You are ssoooooo correct. Israel over the centuries has been in disfavor with most countries. .....I wonder why?
Maybe it is because where there is smoke there is fire.
When a snake all one can so is bite. When a scorpion, one is compelled to sting. When jewish all one must be able to do is lie, cheat and steal. Hmmmmm?
Of course public school would have none of this, but then I went to private schools and universities so I wouldn't know.
Giving Israel money is like adding gasoline to fire. Giving them nukes is like giving exploding stingers to a scorpion.
They have been responsible for 99% of the worlds trouble, and intelligence tells me if it isn't genetic then it is the training they receive from one generation to another.
Either way no wonder they murdered Christ.
The Waterman
YEAH we need another hitler
YEAH we need another hitler dont we ?
WAR is NOT an American value.
What the...? I hate to say it, but war is our most cherished value in America. We have not fought one single defensive war in nearly 200 years. Yet, we are all told and convinced to support our troops, who have only participated in acts of aggression. Go ahead, tell me you didn't just feel offended by what I just said. Despite the fact that every war or conflict we've ever participated in, we had no business being in and could have opted out, we gleefully jumped into and escalated the destruction beyond where it would have gone had we butted out. Every time you support someone's decision to enter the military, you are encouraging them to help out in the raping and pilaging of some innocent country. Just look at soome of the slogans of our men in uniform, "kill them all, let got sot'em out" and " shoot first, make excuses later. " They defend their deadly mistakes by saying, "I thought my life was in danger, " or " It's not my fault I got stuck in this god forsaken place. " Well, what did they think when they joined up? They'd be sent to French riviera? When they do debasing acts, like raping or pilaging of the local populace, they blame the government for putting them in harm's way. They say, " the stress of war made me do it." Did they join military, get weapons training for three months and not expect to be submitted to the stress of war? Everyone should be familiar with the horror stories of Vietnam, the robbing of boats by rivulets, the indiscriminant slaughter of civilians, the burning of peasant homes. These things are embedded in the American psyche. At some point, it must enter into the minds of American soldiers that they will have the opportunity to do such things. And I'm sure, the more overzealous a prospective recruit is in wanting to kill the "enemy," the more the military wants him. The numerous stories we have in our culture of people picking up weapons and fighting, whether it's tyranny, corruption, or revenge, whatever... Commiting violent acts are considered heroic. How many people cheer when the hero kills the villian in the end of any story? Passive aggression is seen as weak and useless. In our society, criminals are glorified as heroes. How about the American ninja series? Ninjas were thieves, assassins, and sabateurs. They hid their faces because what they were doing was anything but noble. It was the same as the modern day cat burglar who wears a ski mask as he raids your home. Yet, countless films here in America portray these men as heroes and never as the villians they really were. Now, how about the latest Pirates series? How many people hissed as the English governor tried to rid the caribbean of thieving, murderous pirates while cheering for the brigands to get away? That's our military/industrial complex. A band of merry pilaging pirates, raiding country after country and getting us to hiss at entities like the UN that try and rid the world of brigands like them. We are taught that any interference in our ability to rape and pilage is infringement on our freedoms just like poor Jack Sparrow being oppressed by the evil Brits. Lets all cry as we see the little pirate boy being led to the gallows, how evil could these Brits be? Here in America, up is down. Violence is good, passivism is bad. Those who steal are heroes and those who'd try to stop the thieves are oppressors. Those who peddle weapons and flesh are morally righteous while those who faithfully adhere to religious doctrine are vile and depraved. Those that run our nation into a hopeless quagmire that propagates the sale of arms and turns people into slaves and prostitutes are the true Americans. Anyone who objects to this are unpatriotic traitors.
After a failed pre-emptive
After a failed pre-emptive strike into Canada, Colonial and British troops surged across the US border in 1814 and laid siege to Washington D.C. In retaliation to the destruction of Yorkton caused by the US Troops, the British ordered that Washington be set a light. Thus “The President’s House” became “The White House” after Monroe’s administration painted the building white to cover up the smoke damage.
History ALWAYS repeats
No War is not an American
No War is not an American value: neither is sitting back and letting someone attack your brother, sisters fathers mothers sons daughters
IS IT ?
In fact, why don't you give
In fact, why don't you give me your address and I'll kick you ass too you commie.
Iran's threats and clandestine prgrams justify action
If Iran had been straight up about it's nuclear intentions from the start. Had they not funded Hezbollah, developed ballistic missiles and threatened to obliterate USA, Isreal, NATO allies and half a dozen arab neighbours in the past decade the world would accept their nuclear projects much like the wrld has come to live with Pakistan and India having nukes. Thing is that iran has consistently refused to participate in a civil society.
In October 2003 IAEA caught Iran precipitating Plutonium from spent nuclear fuel. Iran has imported tributylphosphate from China for this very purpose. Iran has uranium reserves in Yzad province of just 5,000 tonnes. Only enough to fuel one reactor for 6.5 years, so whay do they want to build 7 reactors ?
In my view Isreal if not USA are perfectly justified in a first strike against nuclear targets in Iran. All nations have a right to go to war in self defence.
Incidentally I have never supported the invasion of Iraq.
number of countries Iran has
number of countries Iran has attacked since WWII: 0. Should we even try to count the number of countries the US has attacked in that period? And we never announced our intention to start a nuclear program or attack Japan with them. Funny how we won't allow any other country to do as we do. Hipocrites! Need I remind you that we declared our intent to invade Iran when we attacked another "axis of evil" country unprovoked. Even the school bully tells his victims to put up their dukes. We demand of the enemies we're about to attack to disarm before we attack them. Maybe we'll go through the same sham of making the Iranians verify they no longer have any weapons before we attack like we did with Iraq.
You are an ignorant idiot.
You are an ignorant idiot.
This coming from a man who
This coming from a man who could not come up with one word to counter anything I said.
iran attacks us every day.
iran attacks us every day. japan is now the second most prosperous country thanks to us.we liberated them and built them back up.
Why do you make statements
Why do you make statements with zero facts to support it? When, pray tell, has Iran attacked us? And please remember, you said everyday.
Oh, and what does Japan have
Oh, and what does Japan have to with Iran? Without arguing with you the differences between developed and prosperous nations, the fact you put these two sentences together in the same response shows that you must have Turret's. Now, to try to argue your amazingly inane point, our reconstruction of Japan has not backfired on us. They have not opposed us on any issue since. They are not our enemy. They continue to give us a strategic strike platform in their country despite the rift this has caused with their neighbors. They have been a stable trade partner. They brought industry to America when our own companies have exported jobs overseas. Some people can never get enough gratitude!
How was Japan liberated? By
How was Japan liberated? By bombing them, invading their country, controlling their resounces. Then you rebuild them, you control them, and reap all the wealth, isn't that what's happening to Iraq or any cournty the US bombs - isn't this how the US prosperpers. Isn't attacking Iran all about taking over their wealth and controlling who will get all the contracts to rebuild - who every controlls the rebuilding, then controls the economics - isn't this what's been going on with all the wars - to destabilize, rebuild and to have the country prosper, but you are the one that really prosper by suppressing the people? Iran is one of the only country in the world that is not controlled by the US and their big corporations. India, Pakistan and many places in Europe is already taken over and controlled
What you have said is all
What you have said is all that is wrong with imperialism. Thanks for proving me right.
US out of Hawaii, now.
Reply to anonymous
Anon said:
"Need I remind you that we declared our intent to invade Iran when we attacked another "axis of evil" country unprovoked. Even the school bully tells his victims to put up their dukes."
The Islamic world declared it's intent on 9/11 and I don't recall those bullies ever warned the victims on those planes, or in the buildings.
Iran showed it's true colours in the Iran-Iraq war when 546 tankers of neutral countries in the straits of Hormuz were targeted and some 400+ merchant seamen from non combattant countries were murdered by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
What is a declaration of war. How about supplying Kytusha and Shehab-3 missiles to Hezbollah which they fired into Isreal in 2006?
How about the subsequent threats by Iran to attack all US allies ?
Is this what you call "unprovoked?"
What!
Do you believe in the oficial 911 myth? What a sad person you are. If you spent time to read facts you had been in far better light.
It's the Tanker wars you are
It's the Tanker wars you are referring to. Here's what WIKIpedia has to say of the tanker wars:
"The Tanker War and Direct U.S. Support for Iraq
Donald Rumsfeld meeting Saddam Hussein on 19 December - 20 December 1983. Rumsfeld visited again on 24 March 1984; the same day the UN released a report that Iraq had used mustard gas and tabun nerve agent against Iranian troops. The NY Times reported from Baghdad on 29 March 1984, that "American diplomats pronounce themselves satisfied with Iraq and the U.S., and suggest that normal diplomatic ties have been established in all but name."[11]Main article: U.S. support for Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war
The United States had been wary of the Islamic Republic of Iran since the Iranian Revolution, not least because of the kidnapping of its Tehran embassy staff in the 1979-81 Iran hostage crisis. According to former Iranian president, Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, shortly after the 1979 revolution Americans, Israelis, Iranian royalists at a secret meeting in Paris drew up a plan to invade Iran. Soviets then obtained a copy of the plan and sold it to Iran through intermediaries for $200,000.[12] According to Robert Parry there was a secret encouragement by the US administration (President Jimmy Carter, conveyed through Saudi Arabia) which was embroiled in a dispute with the new Islamic Republic of Iran. In the words of Alexander Haig, secretary of state from 1981, "It was also interesting to confirm that President Carter gave the Iraqis a green light to launch the war against Iran through Fahd." [13][14][15] However, Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Advisor (United States) does not support this assertion.[16]
Starting in 1981, both Iran and Iraq attacked oil tankers and merchant ships, including those of neutral nations, in an effort to deprive the opponent of trade. After repeated Iraqi attacks on Iran's main exporting facility on Khark Island, Iran attacked a Kuwaiti tanker near Bahrain on May 13, 1984, and a Saudi tanker in Saudi waters on May 16. Attacks on ships of noncombatant nations in the Persian Gulf sharply increased thereafter, and this phase of the war was dubbed the "Tanker War."
In 1982 with Iranian success on the battlefield, the U.S. made its backing of Iraq more pronounced, supplying it with intelligence, economic aid, normalizing relations with the government (broken during the 1967 Six-Day War), and also supplying weapons.[17] President Ronald Reagan decided that the United States "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and that the United States "would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran."[18] President Reagan formalized this policy by issuing a National Security Decision Directive ("NSDD") to this effect in June, 1982.[19]
Lloyd's of London, a British insurance market, estimated that the Tanker War damaged 546 commercial vessels and killed about 430 civilian mariners. The largest of attacks were directed by Iran against Kuwaiti vessels, and on November 1, 1986, Kuwait formally petitioned foreign powers to protect its shipping. The Soviet Union agreed to charter tankers starting in 1987, and the United States offered to provide protection for tankers flying the U.S. flag on March 7, 1987 (Operation Earnest Will and Operation Prime Chance). Under international law, an attack on such ships would be treated as an attack on the U.S., allowing the U.S. to retaliate militarily. This support would protect ships headed to Iraqi ports, effectively guaranteeing Iraq's revenue stream for the duration of the war.
An Iraqi plane attacked the USS Stark (FFG 31), a Perry class frigate on May 17, killing 37 and injuring 21.[20] However, U.S. attention was focused on isolating Iran; it criticized Iran's mining of international waters, and sponsored UN Security Council Resolution 598, which passed unanimously on July 20, under which it skirmished with Iranian forces. In October 1987, the U.S. attacked Iranian oil platforms in retaliation for an Iranian attack on the U.S.-flagged Kuwaiti tanker Sea Isle City.[21]
On April 14, 1988, the frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts was badly damaged by an Iranian mine. U.S. forces responded with Operation Praying Mantis on April 18, the United States Navy's largest engagement of surface warships since World War II. Two Iranian ships were destroyed, and an American helicopter crashed with no apparent combat damage, killing the two pilots.[22]
In the course of these escorts by the U.S. Navy, the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians, however, maintain that the Vincennes was in fact in Iranian territorial waters, and that the Iranian passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe also admitted on Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles.[23] . The U.S. eventually paid compensation for the incident (to non Iranian passengers of the airliner), but never apologized.
According to an investigation conducted by ABC News' Nightline, decoys were set during the war by the US Navy inside the Persian Gulf to lure out the Iranian gunboats and destroy them, and at the time USS Vincennes shot down the Iranian airline, it was performing such an operation. [24]"
Both Iran and Iraq are responsible for the numbers you quoted and it was Iraq, not Iran who initiated that war with the full support of the US.
Why don't people WIKI and get their facts straight before they open their mouths and get humiliated?
This man is definitely
This man is definitely racist when he says "the Arab world" declared war on us. He's the type that will be demanding the government gather up all the arabs and imprison them in those camps haliburton's been building for "a large influx of immigrants and other government programs." What a shining beacon for fairness and equality!
"Perfectly Justified"????
BULLSH*T! Genocide is NEVER justified! Iran ahs not done anything to anyone. They are perfectly entitled to develop nuclear power if they want to---haven't the French? Hasn't the US? Hasn't ISRAEL?????
Why are these countries privileged characters and Iran must be kept crippled? Especially since the US and UK have shown such incredible aggression in their region, it is understandable that it has upped the arms race in the neighboring countries. This was one of the prime risks of the invasion all along, and the US knew it.
BTW if you're so concerned with Iran's nukes, ask that sob Dick Cheney why Halliburton developed them.
Genocide ??? response to jg murphy
You need a dictionary. Genocide is the deliberate extermination of an entire people or culture. The word I think you need is war. Please lay off the emotional hyperbola...
Unlike the examples of other nations cited, Iran is funding and supplying arms to Hammas, Hezbollah, and the Taleban. Chinese weaponry for example has started turning up in Afghanistan which was never previously seen in Afghanistan. These were weapons known to have been exported to Iran in early 2007. Iran is a country which will arm terrorists with nukes. Those terrorists have already threatened to exterminate non believers (of Islam).
Do you propose we all wait for nukes to go off in Washington DC, Tel Aviv, Rome and London ?
This isn't genocide. It's justified self defence.
And USA is supplying the
And USA is supplying the only terrorist state IZRAEL and other lapdog dictators with big guns. What a hypocrite you are! Why shouldn't another state follow USA's example? Does USA have monopoly on arming terrorists?
Where was all this concern
Where was all this concern when pakistan was building the bomb? Where is it now as the country is teetering on the brink of anarchy? North Korea has a bomb now, and America wants, now, to formalize relations with them. There's no longer any talk by this administration that North Korea is a threat. They are making and they are a threat. They finish making a bomb and are no longer a threat?!? Lesson learned: no bomb, America will invade; bomb, America will become a friend.
America's threats and clandestine programs justify action
“If you support…fund a terrorist group, you are a terrorist” Bushism
Who do you think founded and funded Al-Qaeda ? If you said The United States you are correct. Read Robert Fisk’s book “The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East.” As it tends to clear up a lot of what Penn & Teller would call mass-produced BULLSH*T
“All nations have a right to go to war in self defense.” Yeah they do but if you know anything about history, appearances is everything, facts are nothing. A good example is Hitler’s assertion that Polish troops had engaged German Troops on the German frontier and thus he had to react and invade to defend Germany. Problem was everyone including coma patients and African tribesmen who had never seen a white man before knew he was full of crap.
American values must change
Our violence ridden society must change. Hollywood must show the cop that shoots the bad guy as the killer he is. He must go thru an IA investigation and sent to prison. Soldiers who kill in a war must be shown to come home and suffer from their conscience. Ninjas, pirates, and the like must be depicted as the vilians they were. Heroes should be able to subdue a violent adversary with minimal or no violence. If Hollywood seriously toned down violence and destruction, I'm sure there would be no public outcry complaining. America is greatly influenced by what they see on TV. I'm sure it was somebody's scheme to make us indifferent to violent atrocities we witness our military commit on a daily basis. Things must change. We should be appalled when our air force bombs a mosque or our army shoots out a 1000 year old piece of stained glass or our troops shoot blindly into a crowd of people. They're arab, they're muslim. It does not make them any less human. When we mow them down by the dozen to get at one "terrorist" it makes us less human, not them.
the world has a jewish
the world has a jewish problem and needs a final solution
Jesus was a jew. I suppose
Jesus was a jew. I suppose you want hitler back? You are hated as much as you hate.
I am confused. Who are we
I am confused. Who are we supposed to root for? The people who want to eliminate the Muslims or the people who want to eliminate the Jews?
reply to pontified: I am confused. Who are we
Exterminating any nation, or people is a crime against humanity. I don't hear Isreal advocating wiping Iran off the map. I do hear Ahmedinejad advocating erradicating Isreal.
Funny the double standard at work here with several people happy to justify Ahmedinejad's hatred and trying to vilify those who would defend themselves against it.
Before anyone suggests it, I am neither American nor Jewish. Iran however closely replicates the behaviour of Nazi Germany before WW2.
Ahmedinejad never said he
Ahmedinejad never said he wanted to eradicate Israel. That was a mistranslation of what he actually said. Just google it and you will know the truth. Ofcourse you must be wide open for it.
You must be lying about
You must be lying about being neither American nor Israeli since those are the only two countries on the planet still advocating the mistranslation of the Iranian prime minister.
reply to simon gunson
Iran president never said he wanted to wipe israel from the map. This is a media error precipitated by israeli propagandists. what iran presidents said was that the occupiors of palistine (i.e. the current israeli regime) will be wiped from the pages of time (i.e. by their own actions, not by the actions of iran). This is so true. I have no doubt that just as in the 1940s Jews will once again have to conceal their jewishness, and this will be the direct result of their current leaders, not the consequences of other people's actions. The hatered that Israel is earning around the world today causes one to pause and begin to wonder if perhaps, just perhaps, it was similar conduct by their leaders that caused the world to hate jews as much as they did in the 1940s. Of course, we've never been allowed to ask, much less research, the question of how it was that the world so despised the jews in the 1940s, and during so many other periods in world history.
The current Isaeli leadership, however, has been heard to threaten palistinians with a holocaust. it has been heard to refer to Arabs as vermin and animals. Perhaps the nazis learned their ways from the jews.
Tom Hardy
Are you trying to claim that
Are you trying to claim that Hitler killed Jesus Christ? The Jews killed Jesus, everyone knows it except the Jewish sympathizers in the Christian community. Ponchus begged the people not to demand his execution for even the Romans felt Jesus didn't deserve it. His famous quote, "I wash my hands." It was the Jews' decision to execute Jesus, not the Romans.
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