The average broadband download speed in the US is only 1.9 megabits per second, compared to 61 Mbps in Japan, 45 Mbps in South Korea, 18 Mbps in Sweden, 17 Mpbs in France, and 7 Mbps in Canada, according to the Communication Workers of America.
CWA President Larry Cohen testified before the House Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, in support of a discussion draft of the Broadband Census of America Act.
"Good data is the foundation of good policy," Cohen said. "We desperately need a national Internet policy to reverse the fact that our nation – the country that invented the Internet – has fallen to 16th in the world in broadband adoption."
"Equally disturbing, Americans pay more for slower connection speeds than people in many other countries," he added.
According to statistics provided by CWA 80 percent of households in Japan can connect to a fiber network at a speed of 100 megabits per second. This is 30 times the average speed of a US cable modem or DSL connection, at roughly the same cost.
Cohen pointed out that the average upload speed was in the US was only 371 kilobits per second, not nearly enough to send quality medical information over the Internet.
"Speed Matters on the Internet", Cohen emphasized. "It determines what is possible; whether we will have the 21st century networks we need to grow jobs and our economy, and whether we will be able to support innovations in telemedicine, education, public safety, and public services to improve our lives and communities. High speed Internet could even help address the global warming crisis by allowing people to get things done without getting into their car."
Blame RIAA and MPIAA
RIAA and MPIAA have been obstructing the provision of true highs peed internet in the US. Their argument: high speed = more piracy.
It's hard to compare the two
It's hard to compare the two between US and Japan. Japan is mostly high rise buildings, compare to US? In Japan, you just need to put one DSLAM with VDSL interfaces, and you're fine.
Try to do the same thing in US...
This is quite the BS
This is quite the BS argument; cities like Chicago, New York, and LA are just as dense (if not more dense) than Japan is, yet we get "broadband" as defined nearly 10 years ago. And the internet connection you can get in rural areas is hardly worthy of the "broadband" classification. Besides, we've already paid billions of dollars to the telcos to lay out a huge fibre network, yet all we have is crap copper and overpriced (and underperforming) fibre with very limited availability (and strings attached).
Test it..
A connection speed test is at speedtest.net along with global results. The US has quite a lead over Canada (c1000kbs).
I wish it were 7mbps in
I wish it were 7mbps in Canada ( perhaps that is with all the corporate users averaged in) all residential users are promised between 4 and 6 mbps and most of the time I get between 2 and 4 mbps when I'm supposed to get 5mbps.
Think of size...
It's easier for Japan, South Korea and the like to implement higher speed technology because they are smaller countries... that's like taking an average of all the US states' broadband speeds. Obviously California and New York will have higher speeds than Arkansas or Mississippi. Think about it.
Speed or Reliability?
Also while everyone is complaining speed we don't even have reliable connection here in US. I have Verizon FIOS in NY (supposedly the fastest connection for residential areas) was down for 4 days for NO reason whatsoever not even a drop of rain, it just stopped working. And they wouldn't send a techinician out for 4 days. However, bills are always on time (and you get charged for the days when you didn't have service). Just funny.
average speed in australia
average speed in australia is 512k its crap
We already paid for it
US citizens paid with $200 billion and relaxed regulations to have the 45 Mbps upgrade ready by 2006. All that did was enable them to consolidate the industry. Some say America has lost out on $5 trillion of economic growth because of this.
http://www.muniwireless.com/article/articleview/5011
Remember those lavish Worldcom parties? That was your money the lawmakers spent without your permission, only to be pissed out of the ice sculpture of David.
We can't just build it ourselves either, because they will fight it in the courts, just as they are fighting municipal wifi and voip.
That money is long gone, and I can accept that. What I don't understand is how they can continue to be given blank checks in advance without any milestones, and then to have credibility in litigation against new competitors, who actually do want to improve things here.
Pitty they didn't include
Pitty they didn't include Australia. We still use a tin can and string.
Speedtest.net doesn't show
Speedtest.net doesn't show this
http://speedtest.net/global.php?random=84738
Speed Matters
The CWA has a good website for their Speed Matters campaign, http://www.speedmatters.org. It not only has a good speed test but a range of both short term and long term policy proposals to encourage the build out of infrastructure so that every citizen has high speed, affordable internet access. Most of the information Larry Cohen talked about is on the site, plus examples of programs in different states that are either working or they are working to get passed.
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1.9 ain't bad since all of
1.9 ain't bad since all of the info is going through FBI/NSA/CIA filtering. ; )
With some torrents I'm able
With some torrents I'm able to download at about 10mbps here in the US.
Watch Charlie Rose talk about this on June 20, 2005
Half way into the Charlie Rose Show Thomas Bleha was talking about this problem and we still have the same problems two years later.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7572710942817477283&q=tvshow%3ACharlie_Rose
Factors
There are many different factors contributing to our slow internet download speed.
Population density is a major factor. Our east coast megalopolis pales in comparison to Japan's Tokyo's megalopolis. There is also the issue of "technology density". One could assume that the more technology per person a country has, it would naturally lean to more of a technology demand. (The concept of bigger faster stronger more versatile, etc. Once you've had it, you want more.)
Then the other half of this complex situation is all bureaucratic: different countries, different polices, different political objectives. I wonder what would happen if the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on the Iraq "war" was funneled into more productive channels such as investments in education, health, technology, and-God forbid-NASA. (Some of the best technologies in the world came from the great space race between Russia and the US. Back in the day, NASA was funded a whole lot better.)
No, density is a factor.
No, density is a factor. There are many factors. One cannot blame things on one or two things. It would be nice to latch onto one impeding ideal and then pursue the antithesis of it as a means of resolution, but this is naive. There are many things that need be overcome. Just one of the things that will be difficult to overcome is the productivity of deploying much faster networks in lower populous states. (Such as Texas, Alaska, Oklahoma, Montana, etc.) The ISP's would not see a big enough profit margin for their pockets. (Back to the "parties" idea again.) It would, however, be a wonderful idea to upgrade the networks in North Eastern US area and various other large cities like Houston or L.A. There are quite a few potential customers there because of the population density.
If any of you have been to Tokyo and seen the apartments there...I am not a fat person by any means but I would have a hard time not getting claustrophobic. Not only are their transistors packed tight, so are the Japanese living spaces!
Case in point, we need to upgrade our networks, backbones, etc. We also need to lose weight because Americans are fatties.
In Romania or "Omenia" how
In Romania or "Omenia" how 50cent said .. a 4 Mbit Line is 15 $
No DSL or Cable customer
No DSL or Cable customer should be complaining when I'm still stuck with dial-up access only. No ISP's want to lay lines, and I'm less than a mile away from an urban area. Wireless isn't even an option, and when checking into Satellite, I was told the speed increase over dial-up wasn't worth the price to upgrade. I was told that in my area a "56k" connection would shoot up to a "64k" connection with satellite. Definitely not worth the 600 dollar installation fee.
Texas does have Fiber Optics
Texas does have Fiber Optics all over the place, but Verizon, Time Warner, Comcast, have strangle holds on some areas and wont update thier failing machines. It is time we get faster better internet. They make mandates about the HD quailty of your TV but not the speed of your internet
Time to think outside of the box...
There is a way to get affordable high-speed Internet to EVERY part of the US.
When the automobile was introduced there were a lot of private toll roads to provide these new oddities with smooth, safe travel. However, the real economic impact came from making roads a matter of public infrastructure. This moved wealth creation out of the infrastructure (roads) up the chain (transportation, retail, manufacturing, tourism, etc.). Only then did things become really interesting for America's economy.
Today, instead of atoms we move bits. The new byways of commerce are our communications networks. Perhaps it is time to make our communications networks a matter of public infrastructure in order to fuel the next wave of wealth building. And before you say it can't be done, research the public telecommunications movement in Washington State. Public Utility Districts (PUDs) here are allowed to wholesale telecommunications, which ISPs and independent phone companies resell. I live in the rural county of Chelan where ISPs and phone companies resell 3Mbps Internet access over the PUD's fiber optic network for $30-35 per month.
For some newspaper columns about Washington's community broadband initiative go to www.wenatcheeworld.com. Enter "dericki" in the search field on the "Archives" page. To check out Chelan County PUD's fiber optic program, go to https://fiber.chelanpud.org/euedu/ . -dj
the explanation is simple
The reason the U.S. lags behind other countries is simple. We have become short-sighted. Those that claim its complex and has many parts are wrong and haven't worked in the telco industry and are not business minded. Just as the auto-industry is on the verge of dissappearing so will the telco industry. Those with a clue can recall when the US was the leader in Television and Radio manufacturing and inovation. It wasn't because we couldn't compete with Japan, it was because we were to damn lazy and short-sighted and couldn't see past todays profits. US business only think in term of the next 5 years. Japan and other countries think in term of 10,20,30-50 years.. We taught them to think this way and then forgot.. those who espouse other excuses are only fooling themselves.
Whose complaining?
Well I for one must address this issue. I use the internet daily and at a speed that which most of you would cringe. As of the moment I am getting about 15 kbps. Almost half the speed of dial-up from where i live. I use Direct Wav interent satelite where you are supposed to get fast internet where ever you live but WOW! The best i have ever gotten out of this $600 piece of machinery was about 500kbps. Man if i had 1.9mbps id be happy as a clam. Some of you don't know what it means to have slow internet.
Just one small point. I
Just one small point. I think its a liitle cheeky to say we (the US) invented the net when its generally held that Tim Berners-Lee invesnted it while at CERN in Europe.
Internet and Web not the same thing
The Internet was created in the US. It grew out of what was originally called ARPAnet, which was created in 1969 by the Department of Defense in an attempt to create a network that could withstand partial outages. Tim Berners-Lee created the World Wide Web in 1991, which is a technology that is able to represent data digitally over the Internet.
Our Upload Speed...
Our upload speed gets down to about 8 bytes a second then freezes, and it's DSL! I think when we ordered it, they said our internet speed would be 512k. Then today they just called and my mom asked them what our internet speed was and they said 256/128k...and that we'd have to pay like $40 to get 1.5 Mbps. It's crazy.
US vs. Korea
I didn't believe it when people proclaimed that the internet in South Korea was faster then the one I can get at home.
I just came back from vacation a changed man.
What took 40 minutes to download here,
took 1.
So why are we stuck here paying $40+ for a slower internet?
Why isn't anyone doing anything about it?
61 megabit? holy crap. I
61 megabit? holy crap. I can't even imagine speeds like that. Most servers don't even have an uplink that size. I thought my 10mbit connection at home was good... but alas no, it isn't.
It's not all great
well I'm a korean and from a customers view it's great but korean entertainment industries took severe blow. that's why many singers and actors are going into other asian countries for sales. good thing chinese and other asians likes our stuff if they didn't we would be in a deep hole.
My speed
Oh by the way.....My ISP is powercomm and I pay $30 for 100Mbits.
You guys can give excuses
You guys can give excuses all you can but you have to admit that American internet providers are garbage and that we do pay way too much for internet. I mean with the resources and technology we have we should at least be somewhere at the top 5 of that list. Making excuses such as US is too big or there aren't many dense areas are bullplop.
I have worked as a network
I have worked as a network engineer for a few ISP in the north and south east. And the reason that america sucks is cause its all about the bottom line (stocks kills) and profit margins. We have att rolling out 35mbs a second for the new vdsl and the FCC is letting them to compete with verzion fois that will be closer 50+ the cable companies monopoly (one company for any given area) is a joke and a mob style mentality and I should know I worked for them. You can get 200mbps over good old fashion coax and is already being supplied in asain where they get 160mbs down and 35 up. Again its all about margins and profits why spend the money to fix the problem when we can put a band aid fix on the sitchuation.
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The guy two above me is right on!
American companies own the american political system, and that is why competition doesn't work here. Why should somebody upgrade their system to support over 10 mbps when they can make almost as much money without spending the money? Our American government is supposed to regulate and provide an environment where internet speeds would go up, but the isp's pay too much money to them in political contributions to keep that from happening. Your government doesn't care if you ever get fast internet service, and it never will. Get used to it. America, the land of the corporation and the home of the stupid.
The Internet was invented by
The Internet was invented by Thomas Edison(A jew) in 1879.He created it so that he could send spam emails to his rival, a mister Henry f Ford(a closet homo),who created the car mobile so that he could do doughnuts in his rivals yard, A mister john L Chevrolet(A "big 'ol gay teddy bear"),who created the Chevy Astro van so that Mexicans(who dont actually smell that bad) would travel in large groups to California(which is overrated) and where their socks all up to their knees and say things like "Yo homeslice" and "esa" which his rival, a mister Ronald "Horace" Reagon(a master of evil and Pong alike) hated.And reagon created the "Bomb"(KABOOM!!) so that his Rival "Russia"(AKA "Cant get no toilet paper") would quit their bitchin and just "Get down with O.P.P.". And "Russia" countered this by making the internet suck by having all those free download sites(all in "Russian"),which the isp's(Illegal Stealing Peckers") will claim will florish if bandwidth goes up.
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We play $49.95 AUS and we get 1500k/256k down up speed.
Compared to the rest ofthe world ur lucky, AUSTRALIA are a 7th world country... :(
The US is getting messed up!
The US is getting messed up! We need to keep up with technology and science or we'll be dominated in many aspects.
LOL
We lack in Internet penetration, yes. It is safe to say that the International countries just fuck our pipelines over because we hold most of the Net on our soil. Also, those Japanese are only getting those high speeds on sites WITHIN their country. Visit other sites and you're just simply fucked.
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Hahaha our internet sucks
Hahaha our internet sucks but our military fucks all of those countrys
I'd take the internet over
I'd take the internet over the military any day.
FYI, if your ISp says you
FYI, if your ISp says you can get 512 kbps download, that works out to 64 kBps, note the difference between bits and bytes. It makes their speed seem better to the confused consumer. I pay $35/month here in Vancouver, Canada for 6mbps download (get around 700 kBps down on torrents) and 1.5 mbps upload. Not a bad deal, but nothing compared to japan. Even my family in India can get faster service for less $..................
i live in the uae our
i live in the uae our highest speed is 2 mb for 95$ and it sucks and we have optic fiber lines but for some reason they dont to upgrade
So bad to be slow
First off there are thousands of things wrong with keeping the country slow. Look what happened to the south even still do to the civil war. Hehe
That aside, by the government keeping the country behind in technology it is
Making the economy worse
Reducing the presence we have in the world of business
Preventing us from growing in medicine (like banning stems didn't already but thats a completely different topic)
Keeping Americans from progressing in education
Making us vulnerable to being attacked by other countries
We are more vulnerable to viruses
And that is only the surface, we could always have cell service, always know what is going on in the world.
Instead they would rather have us know nothing and were happy when a pre-chewed processed piece of information gets passed the filters. In America we are like mushrooms, they keep us in the dark and feed us shit.
I have lived in The East and you pay $25 for a 100Mbps and if you want to have something really fast you can get a 1.5Gbps for only $70. Many people in America pay $70 for a 5Mbps.
Thats sad, that a country would rather make a buck over the well being of its people. The reason isn't one source as one person has stated. The reason is ISPs don't want to give anything away. Americans will line up for blocks if something is cheap enough (ie black friday). And some people try to say the space has something to do with it. Canada is beating us FCOL(for crying out loud). They are mostly ICE. And why is our fastest state avg (6.*) is still lower than Canada's full country avg (7.*)
The cheap/asinine mentality in this country is astonishing, it does not exist in other countries. Well countries that are the "super power" in the world. We are witnessing the decline and "Fall of Rome".
So bad to be slow
First off there are thousands of things wrong with keeping the country slow. Look what happened to the south even still do to the civil war. Hehe
That aside, by the government keeping the country behind in technology it is
Making the economy worse
Reducing the presence we have in the world of business
Preventing us from growing in medicine (like banning stems didn't already but thats a completely different topic)
Keeping Americans from progressing in education
Making us vulnerable to being attacked by other countries
We are more vulnerable to viruses
And that is only the surface, we could always have cell service, always know what is going on in the world.
Instead they would rather have us know nothing and were happy when a pre-chewed processed piece of information gets passed the filters. In America we are like mushrooms, they keep us in the dark and feed us shit.
I have lived in The East and you pay $25 for a 100Mbps and if you want to have something really fast you can get a 1.5Gbps for only $70. Many people in America pay $70 for a 5Mbps.
Thats sad, that a country would rather make a buck over the well being of its people. The reason isn't one source as one person has stated. The reason is ISPs don't want to give anything away. Americans will line up for blocks if something is cheap enough (ie black friday). And some people try to say the space has something to do with it. Canada is beating us FCOL(for crying out loud). They are mostly ICE. And why is our fastest state avg (6.*) is still lower than Canada's full country avg (7.*)
The cheap/asinine mentality in this country is astonishing, it does not exist in other countries. Well countries that are the "super power" in the world. We are witnessing the decline and "Fall of Rome".
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