US Army wants to enlist illegal aliens quickly as recruitment falls

A senior US defense officials today urged the Congress to fast track a section of the stalled immigration bill that would allow the military to recruit illegal aliens, after recruitment figures released by Pentagon showed that the Army failed to reach its targets for May.

The Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors, or DREAM, provision in the immigration bill was expected to help boost military recruiting by allowing illegal aliens to enlist as way to obtain citizenship, Bill Carr, acting deputy undersecretary of defense for military personnel policy, told a veterans’ group representatives.

“In other words, if you had come across (the border) with your parents, yet you were a minor child and have been in the U.S. school system for a number of years, then you could be eligible to enlist,” he said. “And at the end of that enlistment, then you would be eligible to become a citizen.”

Carr's remarks came as Defense Department figures showed that the Army only recruited 5,101 active-duty soldiers in May, 399 short of its 5,500-soldier goal. The Army National Guard fell 12 percent short of its goal while the Air National Guard numbers were 23 percent below the target.

Deployed troops reported during surveys that they are “a few percentage points” less inclined to re-enlist, but Carr said the “flat” overall retention picture suggests that current retention trends will continue, at least for the near term

That flat projection is expected to apply to recruiting, too, with no major shifts expected in the propensity of young people to join the military, he said.

This outlook isn’t as positive among influencers and parents, those adults who help young people make decisions about joining the military. Support among this group “continues to dwindle as the war progresses,” Carr said.

While President Bush returns to Washington to help revive the stalled immigration reform package, Carr said talk is already taking place to see if at least the DREAM provision of the stalled bill can proceed.

At this point, he said, “we are not sure if the Congress would be interested in resurrecting that segment of the bill.”

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Amnesty is horrible public policy

Both the GOP & Dem's are corrupt. They are both pushing Amnesty for the illegals, even tho is is horrible public policy.

The Heritage Foundation reports "if all the current adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. were granted amnesty the net retirement costs to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.5 trillion".

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Amnesty for illegals and the DREAM act

The Heritage Foundation 2.5 trillion dollar estimate is calculated for when 9 million illegals are legalized. The Heritage Foundation, like so many other D.C. think tanks, members don't live in the real world outside the Beltway and are still living under the ridiculous notion that there are 12 million illegals in the U.S. Jim Gilchrist of the Minutemen Project says there are actually 33 million. D.A. King of the Dustin Inman Society says there are 30 million. Lou Dobbs is still stuck at 20 million, but the simple facts are the true figure is well over 20 million. So that "2.5 trillion" that Heritage puts up doesn't include the other 20 million illegals already here. Figure 4.5 trillion...

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Illegal migrants

Raymond Herrera thinks there is a "lot of racism here?" On the
contrary, the racism comes from the Mexicans. every time they
know they're in the wrong, the first thing out of their mouth is:
"racism" What a joke! Just read the motto of the huge Mexican
organization: 'La Raza' "Para la Raza todo, para los demas nada"
"For the Race everything, for the rest (non-Mexicans) nothing!
They are so stupid and ignorant, they don't know Mexican is not
a race, but a nationality! Here they are in Los Angeles California,
and they think they're Mexican! The fact that they think like the peasant Mexicans does not mean they're Mexicans, only that they came from UNEDUCATED, ILLITERATE, PEASANT STOCK!
They are indeed the racists. The only answer to their illegality is
to scream "RACISM" There is no reasoning with MORONS.

how can u say they are the

how can u say they are the first to say racism...
u see the in welfare living in government funded house wit a BMW parked in front of that hole that they live in...

Latinos come here to work and do they job American ppl think they are to good for

They arent Uneducated or illiterate

they just cant do it in English

Give them a couple years and pretty soon u will be workin for them

ARMY

I think a race war is on order. I'm of mexican decent and i will never trust whites again and whites will never trust mexicans again. I (and you) also know thats true. It will be an awsome race war. I wish i was wrong but everybody pretty much knows i'm telling the truth. If there is a way out...maybe you can suggest it. There should be a better way but racial forces are at work here and i don't see anything cooling the heat. As i said maybe we can work it out but, if not...we will meet in the battle field. AZTLAN 666

how could u say something

how could u say something like u need to get educated.

shame on you
and
u call ur self religious.

NO

Then withdraw from Iraq as the American people wish.

No. No. No.

Our government can do what the citizens want for a change.

No Amnesty for illegals.
Withdraw from Iraq.

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hmmmmm

Ive been reading the comments and i'm just wandering where all these people are getting their information, and as an american i am willing to fight for this country, one of the few, many of our people would not give anything for this country, not to mention defend it, yet i have friends whom are illegal yet they are willing to fight for what this country has to offer to them, they are willing to protect the freedom that many of us take for granted. This is just something to think about before people open their mouths. Well, you have a good day now.

illegal smuggler

By all means let's provide more people with allegiences to foreign countries infiltrate our military. We got a great example this week when news came our about the 3 National Guardsmen, 2 hispanic from Laredo TX, and one black guy, were caught and charged with smuggling illegal aliens. What kind of B.S. traitors do we have in the fed gov, passing themselves off as "public servants"???? This is incredible arrogance and hubris.

David O. McKay, “There is another danger even more menacing than the threat of invasion of a foreign foe. It is the unpatriotic activities and underhanded scheming of disloyal groups and organizations within our own borders…the secret, seditious scheming of an enemy within our ranks, hypocritically professing loyalty to the government, and at the same time plotting against it, is more difficult to deal with.”

A Foreign Legion

Facing more and more difficulty to enlist enough Americans to do the job, why not do as the French and raise an army of foreigners to do the fighting outside of the United States, which is almost all the fighting US Forces have done since the end of the Civil War. This will solve the problem of illegal immigration and it solves the problem of too few Americans willing to serve in the army. Quality don't need to be a problem. Just ask the French.

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recruitin illegals

Recruiting illegals is a lot of crap!Remember the draft - bring it back !

History repeated yet again

The use of immigrant, non-native tongue speaking troops was used by another waning empire, the Roman Empire.

Please read the history of the 3rd-5th centuries to find more and more similarities: A bloated government bureaucracy, out of control taxes, religious intolerance, and vast immigrations.

The American Empire relies almost completely on foreign countries for energy, food and manufactured goods. What do we do? Services! Yea, right... Now we are getting our military personnel from a foreign country.

This is too obvious to ignore:
The Decline and Fall of the American Empire.

fuck all of you kkk... i

fuck all of you kkk... i have my own family here in the US, and im actually thinking of joining the french foreign legion just to feed my kids.

Need greencard will fight for AMERICA's war !!!

Where do I enlist for the military ? I have been in America since 1998. I worked w/ different companies in so many years as an H-1B working visa. But up to this time, I still dont have the a greencard. I want to have a greencard and I'm tired of paying lawyer's fee and USCIS fee that's eating up all my yearly income. Im not an illegal alien. I will fight in the front line of Iraq, Afganistan, or whereever the war is. I'll better put my luck in the war frontline than spend the rest of my life in limbo here in America.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Very good speech. Good job, definately two thumbs up. Hmmmmm. So you say that we are "Giving more benefits to illegals!!" Wow, really? Now, let me ask you this, where in the world did you get this information? I'm just curious, have you even done any research? Did you know that illegals don't get social security benefits, they don't get to retire and have the government take care of them, did you know that they have to pay taxes without getting all the benefits that we Americans get, did you know that they help boost our economy. So you are of Hispanic origin, mexican i'm guessing, so you should know more about this than me, well let me tell you something, i have so many Mexican friends whom I know are illegal here, and in fact none of them fit the way you have described them. "The illegals have no loyalty to anything other than their own dreams of grandiose!...Education is secondary to them. $$$$ are first." Really? hmmm, is this how you are or your family, excuse me if i have insulted you, but how do you know this? My friends and their parents value education more than I do, in fact the value it more than other Americans that i know. Do you consider them as not valuing education if they graduated highschool with a 4.0 GPA and ranked 7 in a graduating class of 700 students? I was ranked 435, and I'm a full blooded American. You know, you should really stop making all these crazy assumptions, especially about your own people. There was something you said that i really liked, though, "Shame on our leaders in Washington. Giving more benefits to illegals!! Instead of protecting our borders from the invasion we've
had for the last 30 years or more." This is really amusing, and that's why i like it! Shame on the native americans for not protecting their borders for more than 100 years. "...I beg you to protect our country the USA is in grave
danger of being taken over. This is no myth, it is a reality!" Really? You don't say! Did you just happen to hear this from a couple of people of Mexican descent out of the millions that there are?

"Thank you and may God Bless you for the good you can do
for our beloved nation."

Seriously, may God bless America, and help all the ignorant people open their eyes and see the reality, instead of making false assumptions. And people should do research before one opens their mouth. This is my country, our country, so lets do whats is really best for it, and for us, instead of seeking personal advantages, or just the mere fact that some of us don't like a certain people.

well, you have a good day now. Bye.

illegal migrants and the Dream Act

I cannot believe the stupidity of 'Dick' Durbin! Giving away
legalization without verification of true facts on the part of the
"students!" No wonder our country has lost the respect of
many other nations!! Now they are offering the Military??

THESE ARE FOREIGNERS! THEY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF THEIR OWN CORRUPT GOVERNMENT!! I DON'T SEND MY CHILDREN TO MY NEIGHBOR TO SUPPORT AT THE EXPENSE
OF MY OWN!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH BASIC LOGIC??

I NEVER VOTED FOR BUSH THE FIRST TIME, AND BY THE SECOND TIME I KNEW WHY? THE MAN IS INSANE, I WOULD NEVER HAVE VOTED HIM IN IN A MILLION YEARS! THIS ELECTION WAS EITHER RIGGED OR A BUNCH OF FOOLS VOTED FOR HIM, NOW WE ARE ALL PAYING THE PRICE OF THEIR STUPIDITY! THIS HAS RUBBED OFF ON SOME IDIOTS SUCH
AS DURBIN, MENENDEZ (THE TRAITOR FROM NEW JERSEY), AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, SON OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, MARTINEZ OF FLORIDA, AND ALL THE MEXICAN (NOW AMERICAN LEGISLATORS ?) FROM OTHER NATIONS' --TRAITOR MIGRANTS! LEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO NOT BREAK THE LAWS UPON ENTERING THIS LAND, ILLEGALS DO, ONLY TO CONTINUE BREAKING THEM ONCE THEY'RE HERE! EVEN IN CONGRESS!

Just look around at all the young illegals, they came here
so they wouldn't have to serve in their military! Their service
is mandatory! If the cowards come here, they avoid it there!
What makes stupid Durbin think they will want to serve in
the USA military?

The answer is NO DREAM ACT, NO ILLEGALS IN THE MILITARY,
DEPORT THEM ALL AND START OVER AGAIN -THIS TIME WITH
LAWFUL, LOYAL TO AMERICA RECRUITS!

Wow!

I'm loyal to my country, are you? did you know that many of our people are not willing to fight for this country? Now what do you have to say to that? "Just look around at all the young illegals, they came here
so they wouldn't have to serve in their military!" Wow, really, you don't say! And so just because only a few of them do this, you thing everyone else does. This is a really ignorant way to think about it. "THIS TIME WITH
LAWFUL, LOYAL TO AMERICA RECRUITS!" I'm one of them, but good luck finding the rest!

lol! the people have

lol! the people have spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they want the best fighters!!!!!!!!! look SOUTH OF THE BORDER!!!!!!

Vietnam veteran

I remember in Vietnam there were a number of soldiers who were not citizens of the USA. If the individuals had a clean record and wanted to join the Armed Forces, why would we want to stop them? They are probably more patriotic than a number of people I know. And, if they serve honorably, why not put them on the path to citizenship?

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Definately with you. i

Definately with you. i myself am going to join the marines as soon as i am done with community college, just 3 more semesters to go! yet you know what ticks me off is that most of my people are not willing to fight for this country, they all take the freedom and opportunities that this country offers for granted. unlike you, you were loyal to this country, and i'm sure that there are thousands who are also like you, illegal, yet they are willing to fight for what this country has to offer them, so i think they deserve a chance to become legal in this country, they deserve it more than some of us.

WHETHER OR NOT HE HAS BEEN LAWFULLY ADMITTED TO THE UNITED STATE

329 NATURALIZATION THROUGH ACTIVE-DUTY SERVICE IN THE ARMED FORCES DURING WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, THE KOREAN HOSTILITIES, THE VIETNAM HOSTILITIES, OR IN OTHER PERIODS OF MILITARY HOSTILITIES
SEC. 329. [8 U.S.C. 1440]

(a) Any person who, while an alien or a noncitizen national of the United States, has served honorably in an active-duty status in the military, air, or naval forces of the United States during either World War I or during a period beginning September 1, 1939, and ending December 31, 1946, or during a period beginning June 25, 1950, and ending July 1, 1955, or during a period beginning February 28, 1961, and ending on a date designated by the President by Executive order as the date of termination of the Vietnam hostilities, or thereafter during any other period which the President by Executive order shall designate as a period in which Armed Forces of the United States are or were engaged in military operations involving armed conflict with a hostile foreign force, and who, if separated from such service, was separated under honorable conditions, may be naturalized as provided in this section if (1) at the time of enlistment or induction such person shall have been in the United States, the Canal Zone, America Samoa, or Swains Island, WHETHER OR NOT HE HAS BEEN LAWFULLY ADMITTED TO THE UNITED STATES FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE, or (2) at any time subsequent to enlistment or induction such person shall have been lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence. The executive department under which such person served shall determine whether persons have served honorably in an active-duty status, and whether separation from such service was under honorable conditions: Provided, however, That no person who is or has been separated from such service on account of alienage, or who was a conscientious objector who performed no military, air, or naval duty whatever or refused to wear the uniform, shall be regarded as having served honorably or having been separated under honorable conditions for the purposes of this section. No period of service in the Armed Forces shall be made the basis of a application for naturalization under this section if the applicant has previously been naturalized on the basis of the same period of service.

(b) A person filing an application under subsection (a) of this section shall comply in all other respects with the requirements of this title, except that-

(1) he may be naturalized regardless of age, and notwithstanding the provisions of section 318 as they relate to deportability and the provisions of section 331;

(2) no period of residence or specified period of physical presence within the United States or any State or district of the Service in the United States shall be required; and

(3) service in the military, air, or naval forces of the United States shall be proved by a duly authenticated certification from the executive department under which the applicant served or is serving, which shall state whether the applicant served honorably in an active-duty status during either World War I or during a period beginning September 1, 1939, and ending December 31, 1946, or during a period beginning June 25, 1950, and ending July 1, 1955, or during a period beginning February 28, 1961, and ending on a date designated by the President by Executive order as the date of termination of the Vietnam hostilities, or thereafter during any other period which the President by Executive order shall designate as a period in which Armed Forces of the United States are or were engaged in military operations involving armed conflict with a hostile foreign force, and was separated from such service under honorable conditions.

(c) Citizenship granted pursuant to this section may be revoked in accordance with section 340 of this title if at any time subsequent to naturalization the person is separated from the military, air, or naval forces under other than honorable conditions, and such ground for revocation shall be in addition to any other provided by law. The fact that the naturalized person was separated from the service under other than honorable conditions shall be proved by a duly authenticated certification from the executive department under which the person was serving at the time of separation.

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all u white people think u r

all u white people think u r a superior.
iam MEXICAn
i was an illegal immigrant at one point of my life.
now i make $250,000 pluss a year. haha

n u sayy we r stupid.

we r the working class..
we r loyal to all

u remind me of the nazis

remember slavery!!!

yeeahh it was ur pathetic family tree.ancestors

Excuse me but all of you who

Excuse me but all of you who are against illegal immigrants should think about it TWICE. you should get your information RIGHT and know that all of us except the native Americans are all illegal. THAT'S RIGHT! what just because some people can't speak English doesn't mean that they can't be here. or you have to be a certain color. if it wasn't for them the US would be nothing. so next time you want to talk sh*t think about it and get your shit straight. im mexican and proud of it! anything you can do i can do better.

VIVA LA

VIVA LA RAZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL ALWAYS BE UNITED!!

America

America the home of the brave the land of the free
I am an illegal and I tell you this, I have lived in this country in this land since I was 10yrs old and I will die in the front line not for a green card but to protect this my oh so great home to protect our freedom, our land, our cultures, our people ignorant and none ignorant, our way of life, our democracy and all those great things that we all take for granted. So for all you people “all you ignorant people” that think that we illegal’s are a drained we immigrants helped create all the great things we have some of the best and most brilliant scientist, thinkers, builders, were immigrants Einstein was German. In 2005, immigrant-founded companies produced $52 billion in revenue and employed 450,000 nationwide. Almost 80% of immigrant-founded companies were in two industries: software and innovation/manufacturing services. In Florida, Hispanics led the pack among immigrant groups that founded companies. In Massachusetts, Israelis led. In New Jersey, they were Indians read this and know the truth this is hour home too and well will die to protect it!!! Against any foreign or domestic threat!!.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA AND IT’S PEOPLE!!!

You Guys

You Guys are all stupid

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haha this is funny. i am

haha this is funny. i am what you say illegal or a wet bean what ever you want to call me, i have always dreamed of joining the marines. i have been here since i was 1 im 21 right now "I will die in the front line not for a green card but to protect this my oh so great home to protect our freedom, our land, our cultures, our people ignorant and none ignorant, our way of life, our democracy and all those great things that we all take for granted." well said i dont care you can call me what you want. ill fight and die for you to be able to, for your freedom

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how can people sit here and

how can people sit here and accept the illegals into the UNITED STATES millitary? the millitary that was established to protect the country being staffed by illegals? granted there are some illegals who would gladly lay down there life for our country because they understand what this country has to offer. on the contrary there are americans who dont understand other countries because they havent travled there, been there, etc. but like everything else. one "bad apple" ruins the bunch. you think that just because there are a few loyal immigrants that americans can think that all immigrants will be loyal....no i personally am neutral in this whole debate. just think about what is good for the country...you dont need politcs to think for you.

how can people sit here and

how can people sit here and accept the illegals into the UNITED STATES millitary? the millitary that was established to protect the country being staffed by illegals? granted there are some illegals who would gladly lay down there life for our country because they understand what this country has to offer. on the contrary there are americans who dont understand other countries because they havent travled there, been there, etc. but like everything else. one "bad apple" ruins the bunch. you think that just because there are a few loyal immigrants that americans can think that all immigrants will be loyal....no i personally am neutral in this whole debate. just think about what is good for the country...you dont need politcs to think for you.

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